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By popular demand, in the comments on my video today I will try to make a composition of foam and solvents for application to concrete. I want to see how he will behave, because car owners are interested in cheap varnish to cover the garage against dampness.
Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

Gasoline and Styrofoam


I'll start by dissolving the foam in gasoline. We should still check in acetone and solvent, but I think that acetone dries too quickly. I pour 92 gasoline into a clean empty metal can. A little more than half of the can will be needed.
A piece of polystyrene foam with a length of approximately 1,500 mm and a thickness of 40 mm is cut into strips and one by one I lower them into a jar of gasoline. The width of the strip should be selected according to the size of the can. My goal is to see how the resulting composition will behave on concrete (I do not need a lot of varnish). Polyfoam easily enters the jar, melts and shrinks into a fairly tight lump at the bottom.
Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

Note: in this case, gasoline will bubble and splash out of the can.
The resulting composition has the appearance of a gel and is similar to napalm (when ignited, it immediately flares up, burns for a long time, the flame is high). It is not possible to adjust the viscosity of the composition by adding gasoline - it reaches a certain density and the process stops there. I leave the jar for a while so that air bubbles come out and all the pieces of polystyrene dissolve.
Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

We cover the concrete floor


I take the gel-like mass from the bottom of the can and transfer it to another container. I clean the area of ​​the concrete slab with a metal brush and blow it off with dust with a spray gun. He prepared a brush and putty knife for work, which he slightly oiled. So the varnish will not stick.
It turned out to be more convenient to work with a spatula.
Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

I pour the varnish onto concrete and begin to apply the spatula on the surface with movements in different directions. After completion of work, almost nothing remains on the spatula. When applying varnish, you immediately smell gasoline. I leave this area for about an hour to dry.
Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

Dissolve Styrofoam in Xylene


I’ll conduct the second experiment with xylene (one liter costs 110 rubles). If you cover the entire garage with this compound, then its cost will be 2.5 times more expensive than polystyrene varnish dissolved in gasoline. For dissolution in xylene, I chose a denser and more expensive fine-grained polystyrene foam, from which the protection of the computer system unit is made.
Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

When xylene is added to the jar, the foam dissolves almost completely, the viscosity of the composition becomes less, a thick lump disappears. The composition of this viscosity can be applied with a much thinner layer. Xylene seems to be better suited for preparing polystyrene varnish.
Note: I was also advised to use solvent 647, but it was not at hand.
I will try to use the composition on xylene as a varnish on wood. I take a walnut branch peeled from the bark and with a brush I apply a thin layer of the composition. It turns out very well, but you have to wait for the varnish to dry.
Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

Also, with a brush, I apply a layer of the composition to concrete. The layer is very thin and there are no air bubbles. Leave to dry.
My first section did not completely dry in an hour - a film with a very large number of bubbles formed on the surface.
Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

Huge bubbles formed on the sides. To the touch it looks like a well-known bubble wrap. However, as an option, such a composition can be used after complete drying.
Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

Better is the area coated with xylene varnish. The composition is well absorbed into the concrete surface and looks like a real varnish. The only negative is the high cost of xylene compared to gasoline.
Styrofoam varnish for concrete floor painting

To reduce the cost, you can first dissolve the foam in gasoline, and only then add xylene and achieve the desired viscosity.It will turn out inexpensive to prepare a composition on the basis of draft xylene, which is sold in cans and costs less.
Note: on a tree, the composition has dried in 10 minutes and is indistinguishable from a real varnish. In the future, for an experiment, I can take a polished board on a machine in a nearby furniture workshop and apply 3-4 layers of varnish on xylene to it.

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Comments (14)
  1. Guest Michael
    #1 Guest Michael Guests August 18, 2018 10:47
    3
    How are things with wear resistance? And firefighters are not overjoyed ...
  2. Guest Yuri
    #2 Guest Yuri Guests August 18, 2018 12:09
    4
    For waterproofing, it is better to use liquid glass - cheaper and safer. Fuel and lubricants spilled on the floor will dissolve this napalm.
  3. Guest Oleg
    #3 Guest Oleg Guests August 18, 2018 15:36
    3
    Does xylene toxicity bother you?
  4. Guest Alexander
    #4 Guest Alexander Guests August 18, 2018 17:31
    4
    Should I try toluene instead of xylene?
    1. Pavel Alexandrovich
      #5 Pavel Alexandrovich Guests April 2, 2019 1:29 p.m.
      0
      This is the same. Just xylene is a little weaker, and toluene is not for sale; it is a derivative of coke and chemical production.
  5. Kang
    #6 Kang Guests August 18, 2018 17:33
    1
    Xylene is not so simple - TU xylene in a glass bottle dissolves the foam quickly and without lumps, it turned out to be a normal protective film. We bought 2 by 10 liters of GOST, but it does not melt properly - the foam turns into a chewing gum lump and it is difficult to smear it.
    So there are features
  6. Guest Sergey
    #7 Guest Sergey Guests August 18, 2018 18:03
    4
    Previously, solvents 646 and 647 were of two components (I don’t remember which ones offhand), the difference is in the ratio. Not that nitro paints were dissolved - even many plastics of the thermoplastics class (such as home-made glue). Now under these brands a mixture of all kinds of rubbish is sold, a completely inactive solvent. It is still possible to dilute nitro-paint, but to dissolve dried-up is not. I tried to add it to the epoxy - it exfoliates after a few minutes. With continuous stirring, he still used the epoxy. Now only acetone remains from the active "evil" solvents.
  7. Felix
    #8 Felix Guests August 19, 2018 10:38
    5
    Not just stupid, but a very dangerous experiment. Then someone took care of the toxicity of xylene. So xylene compared to styrene is just milk.
  8. Igor56
    #9 Igor56 Guests August 20, 2018 06:33
    1
    I repair the roof from slate (problem areas) how will it work?
  9. Pavel
    #10 Pavel Guests August 20, 2018 23:18
    2
    I dissolved the polystyrene with P4A solvent, it dissolves perfectly and turns into varnish, then pulled a beautiful cloth onto the board and poured the varnish. It hardened. It was cool, but unfortunately once I put a hot kettle on the table and there was a reflex print from the bottom ---- it doesn’t keep the temperature !!!!!! !!!!!
  10. connoisseur
    #11 connoisseur Guests August 21, 2018 02:27
    2
    Polyfoam in acetone, + plasticizer Dibutyl phthalate - HERE is an excellent glue and varnish!
    and polystyrene in gasoline is napalm! one of the recipes.
  11. Guest Roman
    #12 Guest Roman Guests August 21, 2018 16:37
    19
    I made it easier and cheaper. Vacuumed the concrete floor. Covered with the usual primer from the store. After drying, the primer painted the floor with a matte facade paint for outdoor use. 24 square meters took a little more than 5 kg of paint. As a result, the 4th year, the floor feels more than excellent. No dust on the floor, easy to sweep, easy to clean, does not swell.
    1. Guest Yuri
      #13 Guest Yuri Guests September 3, 2018 17:23
      1
      The best solvent for polystyrene is gasoline + acetone in a ratio of 50/50
    2. Pavel Alexandrovich
      #14 Pavel Alexandrovich Guests April 2, 2019 1:25 p.m.
      1
      To dedust a concrete floor it is enough to impregnate it with diesel fuel. In Soviet times, we in the army treated sex in classrooms like that.

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